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Ireland got the job done today with a four-try display in front of another sell-out home crowd. And they lose the ball.
"I think that talk has been there, from outside our group, for the last six, seven weeks", Murray said.
For many of them, there is only one person at fault - rather than fifteen.
England were like this too not so long ago.
Machenaud kicked another penalty in the 63rd minute before England scored a delightful try five minutes from time when Daly sent May over and Farrell converted.
Farrell stopped his team before they went into the tunnel at half-time and administered a few words: many of them may have been short and four-lettered and a few of them probably focused on not giving away any more penalties.
Now? Now the problems are piling up.
The win over the Scots also keeps Ireland on course for only a third ever clean sweep and sets a new Irish record of 11 wins in a row. Still, it was a French side who tripped, fell and stumbled across the finishing line.
Confirmed: Ireland crowned Six Nations champions as England lose
Wales will need to stop France taking away any points - a losing bonus point could be all France need.
England surrendered the crown they have held for the last two years with a second successive defeat, a fortnight after falling to Scotland.
While the breakdown continues to be a work in progress, they need to address their indiscipline with some urgency.
Scotland showed glimpses of the form that saw them beat England in the previous round of matches, with Blair Kinghorn's try keeping them just about in the hunt, but a lack of accuracy at crucial moments proved costly. But back-to-back defeats against Scotland and France have left Jones calling on his side to learn from their pair of losses. Thirteen missed tackles in the first half alone in Edinburgh, 16 in the match in Paris.
"You've got to take these opportunities with both hands when they come", he said. "Power is force times mass, and it's how quickly you can accelerate it". "It's our expectation of ourselves that we turn up and we're really competitive next week".
Daly laid on a try for fellow wing May with six minutes remaining, but it was too little, too late for England, whose day was summed up by the concession of yet another penalty late on, kicked by replacement Lionel Beauxis.
So has their attacking strategy. That alone is a good argument to dispense with them in this so special of tournaments. Fly-half George Ford hardly featured. Ireland will travel to Coventry to face England and France will be up against the Welsh.
It's possible, but Ireland are most certainly in the driving seat. A simple pass would have resulted in a Hogg try but Jones made a mess of it and the chance went begging.
Jones, hypercritical of himself as well as any team he coaches, knows all this.
The Irish are on 19 points and England and France on 10 going into the final round of matches.